Research Retrospectives: An interview with David Ha, Co-founder and CEO of Sakana AI

Researchers Rosanne Liu and Laura Graesser walk Ha back through the whole improbable arc: the anonymous hardmaru blog written at night during a Goldman Sachs trading career, the leap to Google Brain, World Models and sketch-rnn, and the conviction — running under all of it — that the most interesting intelligence is evolved, collective, and a little bit playful. A rare interview aimed at researchers rather than markets, recorded in Sakana’s first year.